Anti-Deathism

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File:Anarcho-Immortalism.png Anti-Deathism is an off-compass libertarian left, hyper-transhumanist and culturally progressive ideology. This ideology advocates for the abolishment of death, dominance, gender roles, and predation. And a society where all communities are locally organized with different groups organizing together to form unions that vote on policy and elect/randomly select councils of delegates who can be retracted at any time who would form a council and enact policy based directly on votes, those councils then linking together with other councils on different municipal levels to form a federal council that works to organize and facilitate resources and supplies necessary for the local councils to be able to perform their duties adequately and can help to enact policy on a national level as a mediator. All that is collectively used is collectively owned. People participate because they will see the fruits of their labor in the society that sustains them. No one will be forced into working, all work will be voluntary, individuals and their co workers will make decisions together. People get what they want by taking what they need from a library of things or saying they want it in an anonymous wish list then when they select things all the materials that are needed to make said thing are registered, and people who are best suited to making them are notified. People will get special things like particularly excellent food or social reward for example by doing needed but taxing work. Collectively owned automation taking care of most things anyway. With a people's militia made of every member of the community to take care of crime where it would exist. And unkillable immortality with the ability of choosing to store and remember memories by choice. And to prevent all extinction events including any possible death of the universe. No one being allowed/able to die increases liberty, (read the philosophy section to know why).

A hypothetical where nothing is impossible to think about what my philosophy would do with that.

Life to have control over all non-life, and to achieve maximum possible freedom for all life. Every being that ever existed and if dead resurrected to have any ethical therapy needed to be ethical and healthy individuals that reject death. With all who chose to allow/cause unprovoked ruin/end of life publicly accept responsibility and apologize, then go to who they harmed and ask personally what they could do. (The victims also have therapy and such so whatever it is, it won't be too extreme.) Then be integrated into this society. And redesigned reality itself to maximize life's benefit. Go back in time to prevent oppression from ever existing and go back to the past to start civilization at the start of the universe so civilization can progress until the end of the universe, at which point it goes back to the start in so it can be guarantied to stop that end.

Philosophy

To have experience there must be you to experience it, such as the experience of reading this. There is a you here to experience the thought of this, absence of you can't experience anything. This line of logic is how you can know you exist and so are separate from the inanimate/dead.

You can conceptualize a contrast between suffering and non-suffering, to have the contrast you would need to experience what it is like to not suffer, making non-suffering an experience. You don't see black in death, there's no you to see black. Non-suffering is itself an experience and the concept of experience can't exist in death. The burden of proof is on every other understanding of death.

Someone not being allowed to have experiences without them having a say in the matter is what all death does, not just "early death". Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's good. People who think death creates meaning actually find meaning in what they think death is important for, but not death itself. Only living people for themselves can decide what to live for and so death as the end of life is the end of meaning.

Life when healthy and free is its own reward. In that scenario there is no difference between destroying what makes yourself happy and choosing to die other than death being even worse. The flaw that gets in the way of this is not life or an inherent part of life, it's the many circumstances that cause death and suffering. "You can die or you can continue to suffer" is coercion natural or not. "freedom to die" is not freedom.

Before humanity invented, they would not think the technological progress and control of the world humanity has in the 21st century is possible. We are nothing compared to what we can be. I don't care about what life is or has been and neither should you, I care about what life should be and so should you.

(Extra counter arguments to deathist arguments I've seen)

Understanding of the gravity of actions and experiences is never going to become unimportant from immortality. And it's often death that makes people think "I'm going to die anyway so it doesn't matter"

What makes humanity human is human intelligence/ingenuity/culture, not death. And even if it were some essential part of being a fully realized human person that would just mean that part of humanity should be outgrown in a new evolutionary jump just as humans outgrew being defenceless prey

The idea that the matter you're made of not turning to nothing can count as continuing to exist is absurd, you don't exist in inanimate objects now, so why would you become "one with everything" upon death?

Children feel a reason to live without any understanding of death, one that can still exist in fully developed minds. And people can and do have the reaction of feeling that there is no reason to live with death.

Albert Einstein said time is an illusion however to use this to justify the idea that existing in the past means you'll always exist is absurd, you cannot experience points in the past as if they were the now, even if you count perfect memory as doing that then what makes you think you could do it without a brain capable of it? You don't exist in the past and death wouldn't change that.

Relationships

Friends

• File:Pro-Life.pngImmortalism - DEATH TO DEATH!
• File:Abundance.png Abundance Theocracy - I had no knowledge of this until made aware of it by Xianzhouism. Thanks for helping me find allies to overrun you with >:)
• File:Ancom.pngTemplate:PCB - So many people don't seem to know what this actually is,that it works, and that there's no reason it couldn't work on a national scale. I reject authority because authority is death.
• File:Vita.pngVitarchism - We agree on everything.
• File:LUKK.jpgLukkoism - This is excellent and I'm happy to see immortality included.
• File:O'Langism.pngO'Langism - This is perfection from what I can tell
• File:Ashley.pngAshleyHere Thought - Individualism is the core of anarchism and real communism.
• File:Panhumanism.pngPanhumanism - Humanity must reject death to survive. If you say that sounds obvious, I say exactly.
• File:Mspont.pngTemplate:PCB - If Mao worked with this instead, china would be based.
• File:PCB-AnSynd.pngTemplate:PCB
• File:Platformism.pngTemplate:PCB - We know what happens if we work with filthy tankies.
• Left Hoppeanism - Anarchy has rules. And this rule sounds good to me.
• File:Radbort.pngRadical Anti-Darwinism
• File:Bckchn.pngTemplate:PCB - We are all being murdered by climate accelerating capitalists.
• File:Vegarch.pngTemplate:PCB - Veganism is inherently aligned with me.
• File:PCB-Minsocf.pngTemplate:PCB
• File:TIMUAAAism.png ThisIsMyUsernameAAAism - Friend.
• File:Partip.pngTemplate:PCB
• File:Libsoc.pngTemplate:PCB
• File:Councom.pngTemplate:PCB - I've gotten this on more then one political test.
• Template:NameNeoblartism - Very based.
• File:Anfem.pngTemplate:PCB - Patriarchy exists for the sake of property.
• File:PCB-AnQueer.pngTemplate:PCB - Gender roles are deathist constructs that capitalism benefits from.
• File:CHAZism-icon.pngCHAZism - An excellent sign of hope. CHAZ was provably good.
• File:Antifa.pngTemplate:PCB - If one is against what is against fascism then they're probably pro-fascist. And every report I've seen about antifa "hurting innocent people" is bullshit.
• Pure Soulist-Networkism - I see Soulism as a good ideal. But as we don't have complete information on everything so there's technically a chance that it is possible, and then death could be made impossible.
• File:PCB-Omni-FreeIcon2.pngOmni-Free - The conscious mind needs reality to be stable to understand it, so this would need to be understood unconsciously. (With the conscious mind coexisting with it.)
• File:Omni-06Icon.pngOmni-06 - So long as each evolves in to the next without any death, this is based.
• File:Analtru.pngAnarcho-Altruism - Please gain immortalism.
• Template:NameAeirinism - People should not be allowed to die, even if they want to. But otherwise based.
• File:Neoairisu.pngNeo-Airisuism - Best mod.
• File:SocSynd.pngSocial Syndicalism
• File:Inky-sprite.png Inkyism
• File:Potashism.pngPotashism
• File:PCB-Cat icon.pngCatism - Cats are great. (:
• Abortionism - This entire argument only decides if an abortion happens in a hospital or an alley, so anti-abortionists would make a surveillance state and/or call women who are already going through the grief of a mischarge murderers. And the only thing that has ever been shown to decrease abortion is comprehensive sex education anyway. (But when the tech comes to have babies survive on there own, that's the new way abortion works.)
• File:Natalism.pngPronatalism - This and the above are inherently compatible so long as you're actually pro-choice.Template:PCB - The nationalism of the oppressed is not the same as that of the oppressor.
• File:Egoposth.pngEgo-Posthumanism - True freedom.
• Samikakoism
• Anarcho-Femboyism
• File:PCB-Hank.png Hankism - Good combat series.

Friendly

• File:Ultro.pngUltroneism - My friend here wrote a book in my user talk. I wasn't expecting that as I was about to go to bed.
• Rutabagism
• Template:PCB - Be anarchist.
• Neo-Butterism
• File:NeoAlphadonialism.pngNeo Alphadonialism
• Neoxothelism - Same-sex intercourse doesn't increase any chance of diseases spreading.
• File:DodoismMini.png Dodoism
• Template:NameAaronism

Frenemies

• File:HelloThere314Icon.pngHelloThere314ism - "While one can seek subjective meaning it becomes nullified by death. This essential pointlessness is what sets us free! Free to simply live." Meaning isn't some kind of oppressive thing, to want to be free means you see meaning in being free.
• File:Bsaheedism-icon.pngBsaheedism - Don't know what you believe now, I rarely check up on pcb so probably won't for a while.
• Template:NRPx - "I only support labour Zionism and oppose Bibi's policy of genocide." Thx for clarification. Oppression and violence against the totalitarianism of alt-right and fascist elements I wouldn't really count as oppression, paradox of tolerance and all that. However israel is still a settler colonial project.
• File:Mutualist.pngTemplate:PCB - This is an interesting ideology but not the best. One can give you their own made up token in exchange for you cleaning their house and you'll say no because it's made up. But if there are armed guards who will only let you out for the token, then you'll want it.
• -- - Seems nice. But I hate the anti-anarchism.
• File:MrsVzr.pngChaosocialism - It's not an "obsession", I want to have an ideal world. And death is in the way of that.
• Euanism
• Scarletism - No, all AuthLefts are bad. "Social movements should not use the means of seizing state power to achieve the ends of socialism because it would not result in the abolition of all forms of class rule, the minority of people who actually wield state power in the name of the workers such as politicians or bureaucrats would instead constitute a new ruling class who dominate and exploit the working classes and focus on reproducing and expanding that power rather then abolishing it."
• File:Cflski.pngCelfloskism - Be more anti-authoritarian please.

Enemies that are Friends

• File:Lex.pngAnarcho-Crypto-Capitalism - Really cool guy. Much better then regular ancap, but capitalism is still a plague.
• File:PCB-LeftRothbardianismPix.pngTemplate:PCB - Also much better then ancap, but capitalism is still a plague.
• File:PCB-Fallenism.png Fallenism - Thank you for the choccy milk. But capitalism is still a plague.
• File:Typicalfan2.pngTypicalFan1 Thought - I think you're a cool guy and all, but that will be a big no from me.
• Northzrnism
• Duckism
• File:PCB-Gabduff-icon.pngGabrialduffeyism - Cool guy.
• File:PCB-NeoBingo.pngNeo-Bingoism - Monarchism should stay dead.
• F.I.A.T - Fellow immortalist, but everything else is cringe.
• Conseilism - Cool guy. I'm happy you're sympathetic towards immortalism. But obviously I wouldn't allow exponential population growth until I know I can colonize the stars. Until then, there would be something that stops the ability of people to have children. (One that can be reversed when the time comes.)
• Xenithmism - Freedom and liberty aren't compatible with hierarchy.
• File:Nullball.pngNullism - If you think that nothing matters because "there is no way to prevent the end", you're just weak.
• Neo-Overbism
• File:GenShrekf.pngGeneral Shrekretary Thought - There's no functional difference between "a fulfilled eternal life in heaven" and the society without death I want to create.
• File:Admiralism Icon.pngAdmiralismFile:Admiralism alt icon.png - Imagining the will of the state to be any different from the separate and diverse will of the individuals that comprise it is just illogical. The state is not an active entity, nor is it a tool that can be used for a cause. Instead it’s a system by which certain violence can be legitimized. Also anyone who confuses anarchism and chaos don't have a clue about what anarchism is.
• File:Chirotesla.png Chiroteslaism - The rest of what's here should say how I feel about the auth-"left".

Enemies

• File:Statecap.pngTemplate:PCB - The world would be saved if this never existed.
• File:Statesoc.png Template:PCB - Ruined absolutely everything everywhere. We won't fall in to the trap of "left unity" ever again.
• File:Blanqui.pngTemplate:PCB - Everything that went wrong is your fault. Fuck you.
• File:PCB-Eugen.pngTemplate:PCB "Transcript and links at https://www.patreon.com/posts/34142453" in this videos description for sources.
• File:Radfem.pngTemplate:PCB - A type of conservative.
• File:Rwsjw.pngRight-Wing SJW - Average conservative.
• File:Intelliperium.pngIntelliperium - "Hm, we seem to have the symptom of a problem. Better get more of the problem!"
• Scientistic Aristocracy - Aristocracy is not scientific.
• Neotrumpism - You say I'm "not a serious ideology", but you deathists can never give a reason to accept death.
• Palostiusism - Your art almost sucks as much as you do.
• Houtism - I will unmake you.
• File:PCB-Cap.pngTemplate:PCB - One of the most obvious problems with capitalism that I can point out is that it cultivates new wants and needs that wouldn't be there without it. Diamonds weren't seen as valuable until de beers said they were. And do I even need to mention the supreme brick?
• File:PCB-Ancapf.pngTemplate:PCB - I can't have lib unity with this. (I'm sorry, but I tried.) Also you should have kept the name "Voluntaryism".
• File:RightBert.png Template:PCB - Libertarian used to only mean Libertarian-Socialism, stop stealing names that belonged to the left.
• Neoliberaltarianism
• File:PCB-Neoliberal-icon.pngTemplate:PCB - You are a real thing. And you are unworthy of licking the mud off my boots. Or the shit.
• Template:PCB - If you're actually stupid enough to believe that "end of history" shit, then you aren't worthy of being in politics.
• Template:PCB - The dumbest idea humanity has ever come up with.
• Minnesotan Distributism
• Transhumanist Ego Theocratic Imperialism
• Formism - If the divine exist, they don't care about us.
• The C.O.N.S.P.I.R.A.C.Y. - That dumb face still makes me laugh so hard.
• Ultra-Left National Bolshevism - What event? There's no you in death to have one.
• File:PCB-Anprim.pngTemplate:PCB - Even worse then capitalism. You're not even left wing.
• File:Rpop.pngTemplate:PCB - Fake Populism
• Anti-Self-Insertism - People should have something unique about their self inserts instead of making a clone of another ideology, but that's the only thing I somewhat don't like about some self inserts.
• Theocratism
• File:OOTS.pngTemplate:PCB - A world free from the oppression of dominance and death will be the last thing you see.
• Kakistocratic Death Worship - Regular Death Worship.
• File:Radbort.pngRadical Abortionism You're pro death you say? In that case I'll kill you.
• File:Xianzhou.png Xianzhouism - I don't remember putting this here and what was here didn't sound like something I'd say so I assume you put yourself here. Well at least you put yourself in the correct spot.
• File:Voidism Small.pngVoidism - Worthless.

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